Saturday, September 12, 2009

Talking about Jews and Christians...

Re: Will Israel right the wrong?
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Originally Posted by JamesTheJust View Post
David,

Since when does Judah have mixed blood? Since when has YHWH authorized miscegenation?
Judah has mixed blood to some extent, just like British-Israel does, even though Yahveh forbids it.

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And since the lost sheep of the House of Israel includes ALL 12 tribes, what is it about, "MY sheep hear my voice and follow ME", don't you understand?
Yes, Yahveh calls a chosen few out of all the Twelve Tribes of Israel, but folks can't come to Him until He comes them and then they will follow His Jewish Son and keep the same biblical Sabbath and holy days and dietary laws as all the holy people have in the Bible.

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At what point did David decide that he was smarter than Yahshua when HE said, "you will know them by their fruits" or when the apostles warned of the anti-Christs, "who is the anti-Christ but he who denies The Christ"?
Yes, too many Jews deny Yahshua is the Anointed One, but the greater offence is all those counterfeit Christians, professing Christians (Titus 1:16; 1 John 2:4), who are following a Gentilized Jesus and are a bunch of apostates who misrepresent Yahshua.

Apostate Christians

Israel and Judah Must Get House in Order Before King Messiah Arrives

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You are treading on dangerous ground because you will be held accountable for the things you teach.
Everybody will be held accountable for what they teach, just like you will for your false teaching that, unlike what I dare to share, contradicts the Bible and history who testify against you.

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There is no such thing as a "Jewish" Israelite than there is a Judeo-Christian. In both cases, the two are diametrically opposed.
You don't know your Bible too well, do you? Or has your murderous hatred for our Jewish brethren blinded you to the Scriptures?

Shaul (Paul), a Jewish Christian, an Israelite, acknowledges those JEWS who were rejecting Yahshua (for the most part) were JEWS. He expressed kinship with them ethnically, tribally and nationally. Why remain in denial or in effect slander the apostle Paul as a liar? Let this truth set you free:

Acts 21:39
But Paul said, I am a Jew [Shaul/Paul still identified with the Jews]

Acts 22:3
“I am indeed a Jew [present tense - Christian Paul still called himself a Jew]

Galatians 2:15
We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles [Shaul identifying with Jews ethnically/tribally and religiously]


Romans 9
1 I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, 2 that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my countrymen according to the flesh, 4 who are Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises; 5 of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came [of the Tribe of Judah], who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.

Romans 11
1 I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew.

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Understanding the history of our people is paramount in understanding that those who call themselves jews today cannot possibly be the Judahite kinspeople of the Old Testament.
It's apparent you don't have sufficient understanding, because the Scriptures, history and current events PROVES beyond any shadow of a doubt that the Jews/Judahites/Yehudim are definitely literal descendants of those Jews in the "Old Testament."

Please prayerfully consider this excerpt from A Jewish Homeland -

As the Greeks are representative of all Gentiles, so the Jews are representative of all Israel. It is to Israel, specifically to the Jews, that God has committed the oracles of God (Rom. 3:2). The oracles of God includes the DIVINE COVENANTS AND PROMISES (Rom. 9:4-5). The Jews hold, in trust, the biblical land deed/covenant to the Holy Land for all Twelve Tribes of Israel.


GOD MADE A LAND-COVENANT WITH ISRAEL (Gen. 12:7; 13:15; 15:18; 17:8; 26:3; 28:13; 35:12). Not once did God promise the Holy Land to the "Palestinians" so Bible-believers must reject their illegitimate claims. Those who attempt to justify permanent foreign occupation of our God-given land or terrible treatment of our people because of our sins are condemning themselves before God (Isa. 47:6; Jer. 50:7; Zech. 1:15).

There are many Scriptures that speak of a REPRESENTATIVE AMOUNT OF JEWS living in Israel before the return of the King Messiah, Yahshua. Shamefully, God's ministers, and consequently the Church of God, have often been blind to what God is doing in Israel today. We've failed to see the wonders that God has wrought, the types that foretell of greater things to come.

We've been ignorant of the biblical principle of duality and have nit-picked the prophecies demanding all or nothing. With that limited vision we would've argued with Peter on Pentecost/Shavuot about Joel's prophecy being fulfilled. However, it certainly was -- in part (Acts 2:16-21).

Consider the following:

God promised to "save Zion, and build the cities of Judah" (Ps. 69:35). (He doesn't refer to them as "Palestinian" cities). God has faithfully done that by rewarding Jewish efforts and respecting their blood, sweat and tears (Isa. 61:4; Ps. 102:13-14). God has used the Jews to make the desert blossom as the rose and protected them during this conversion process, just as Moses requested (Deut. 33:7).

I praise God for having blessed me, from Toledo to Jerusalem, to have lived in eight kibbutzim (collective-farms) throughout Israel that have helped to fulfill these pioneer prophecies, including during Operation Desert Storm.

God clearly prophesied through Zechariah chapters 12-14 that the Jews would again be living in their ancient capital of Jerusalem, with their own rulers, and that the "United Nations" would oppose them and ultimately be defeated.

Zechariah also shows the long-awaited recognition of Yahshua by the Jews as God's Son and Judah's Firstborn and the heartfelt repentance of the political (House of David) and religious (House of Levi) establishment. In fact, Yahshua said that the Jews in Jerusalem wouldn't see Him again until they had this necessary change of heart (Matt. 23:39).

Zechariah also reveals that the Jews would again be a formidable military power in the Middle East with God working in and through and for them. Many Israelis know that God has been their true General and performed many miracles on their behalf. I've heard Gershon Salomon, chairman of the Temple Mount Faithful, recount his miraculous experience of divine protection on the Golan Heights many times.

It's important to note that God has inspired the holy prophets to write about real flesh and blood Jews living in Israel -- not Jewish imposters.

Why? Because those suffering from the sickness of anti-Semitism are out to spread doubt and confusion about Israel's Jewish identity. They publish slanderous hate literature about Khazars attempting to poison minds against the Jews by promoting quack racial theories and Nazi propaganda.

It's nothing less than Satan's desperate efforts to deny that God has the power to fulfill prophecy. Bible-believers reject their bitter lies knowing God's Word is true.

Zechariah also agrees with the New Testament prophecies that reveal Jerusalem as a thriving Jewish city that will suffer under a harsh Gentile occupation just before the Messiah arrives in time (Rev. 11:2; Zech. 14:2).

Yahshua will liberate Jerusalem and secure it as His headquarters. Jerusalem, the site of David's Throne, will be the seat of God's government.

Yahshua, like the prophet Daniel, foresaw that Jewish believers would be living and working in a state of Jews (it's not yet a Jewish state). They'll witness the historic restoration of animal sacrifices and their abrupt cessation by an evil European force, quickly followed by the "abomination of desolation" that triggers World War III (Matt. 24:15-16; Dan. 12:11).

Meanwhile, the Church of God (or select individuals if the Church continues to shirk its responsibility) must ANNOUNCE TO THE CITIES OF JUDAH (the prophecy doesn't refer to them as "Palestinian" cities or "Israeli-occupied") that Messiah's about to appear!

We're to boldly offer Judah the hope and comfort that a TRUE PEACE is coming and to get ready for it (Isa. 40:1-3). We're to help prepare Israel for the shock of a GLORIFIED YAHSHUA REVEALED AT LAST (vs. 5) and lead them to expect an audience with a DIVINE KING whose ROYAL RADIANCE will illuminate every nation.

We must identify Yahshua as the "Son of Man" from Heaven that Daniel previewed (Dan. 7:13-14), and stress that Zechariah gave an "eyewitness account" of this same DIVINE SAVIOR descending from Heaven to reign as LORD from Jerusalem over the whole Earth (Zech. 14:3-4, 9, 16).

Remember this is no small task, and is quite controversial, since the Jews are still looking forward to a human leader to save them from all their troubles.

The Two Witnesses will be the most influential in reaching the cities of Judah from Jerusalem (Isa. 40:9; 52:7-8), effectively knowing their mindset and culture (unlike so many others), but the Church of God should still do what we can now.

These exciting Scriptures clearly prove (they're not assumptions) that with God nothing is impossible: the Jews would again be living in an independent Israel, resurrected from the dust of history just prior to Messiah's coming, with Jerusalem as their capital, complete with an effective fighting force, having been restored to their ancient cities and energetically transforming the land from barren desert to productive fields -- all with God's blessing (Ezek. 37:1-14).

These Scriptures glorify God as faithful and we should praise Him that His Word is good and true. Amen.
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